The site's been up for some hours, and already things seem to be escalating into a battle between different faith groups. This is apparent here on meta, and on this question on Mormonism and Christianity. I posted it because questions like that are the hard ones, especially for this community to handle correctly, and they're certain to come up.

The point of Q&A is not to vote on what I like best, but to vote on the posts that show best effort. How do we get that point across to users? In fact, how do we get the point across even now in private beta?

Is the current problem that people would like to see their POV shown as prominently as possible when the site hits public beta? Or is everyone just so biased and impatient?

  • possible duplicate of Valid questions from different sects
    – user72
    Commented Aug 24, 2011 at 0:25
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    Interestingly, I saw a lot of this in the first 24 hours (including an answer that's the highest voted for the question, which I find personally offensive, but clearly others agree with it), but it seems to have settled down in the last 24 hours, probably now that most of the controversial questions are done with. Commented Aug 26, 2011 at 9:37
  • I also think this question is related to "Personal Viewpoints" meta.christianity.stackexchange.com/questions/201/… Commented Aug 29, 2011 at 14:00
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    @MarkHenderson I am amused, looking back, that 48 hours into the life of this site it was suggested that "most of the controversial questions are done with".
    – Caleb
    Commented Jun 21, 2014 at 6:33

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I think the single most effective thing we can do to avoid a votes becoming a popularity content between opposing view is to lay out some guidelines for how to ask and answer questions that emphasis the importance of identifying the point of view being used.

The content of an answer could easily garner down votes because people do not feel that it represents THEIR view of Christianity while the same answer with an identifier that it is explaining how X group sees something could garner up-votes even from people of opposing views because it offers a good explanation of X groups understanding.

How broad or narrow X needs to be depends on the content and scope of the question. Whether you are answering from the perspective of a Catholic or Protestant (or more controversial divisions such as Mormon) should probably ALWAYS be identified. Your views on Lapsarianism may never need to be identified.


Regarding the specific question asked: It should not have been down-voted, it should be close-voted. It fits the definition of "subjective & argumentative" (now known as "not constructive") precisely.

Though there's bound to be some subjective questions on this site, and a number of questions for which answers may vary by denomination or personal belief, questions like these stand out significantly from the rest. Answers will be very much based on whether or not an individual is a Mormon, or how a non-Mormon answerer considers the broader definition of "Christian". I'm fairly confident there is little to no Biblical coverage on the topic, and any such coverage would likely be a strong point of debate between Mormons and non-Mormons.

At best, the question is not at all a good fit for this site. At worst, it's a blatant example of trolling.

That said, now is a good time to refer everyone to the voting guidelines in the up-vote and down-vote privilege pages:

When should I vote up?

Whenever you encounter a question or answer that you feel is especially useful, vote it up!


  • Is the post well-formed and specific?
  • Is the post on-topic?
  • Is the post objective - an objectively-answerable question, or an answer which is written from an objective, un-biased standpoint?
  • Are there enough details given in the post - for the question to be answered, or for an answer to be useful?
  • Does the post represent good research - a question presenting a particular challenge to the community, or a thorough and well-thought answer?

When should I vote down?

Whenever you encounter an egregiously sloppy, no-effort-expended post, or an answer that is clearly and perhaps dangerously incorrect, vote it down!


  • Does the post represent a distinct lack of research - a simple, Google-able question, or a short, opinion-based answer without objective support?
  • Are there not enough details in the post - in a question for it to be answerable, or in an answer for it to be useful?*
  • Is the post egregiously incorrect or mis-informative based on readily available evidence?

**In some cases potentially good questions/answers may still be lacking in detail. These can later be expanded upon, but in many cases a lack of detail is also an attribute of a bad post - especially for questions.*

What are the alternatives to downvoting?

Instead of voting down:

  • If the post is spammy or offensive — flag it.
  • If the question is duplicate or off-topic — flag it for moderator attention.
  • If something is wrong, please leave a comment or edit the post to correct it.

Additionally, if a question qualifies for any other close reason it should be voted (or flagged) to close instead of down-voted.

I personally believe that if everyone would follow the above guidelines from a strictly objective point of view, most "vote contests" can be avoided.

It should be noted that it is fairly standard across StackExchange communities, for voting in Meta boards to often be an expression of approval/disapproval of the ideas presented in a post. This applies to questions as well as answers. However, this should not be carried over to the main site.

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